[Ladybbird]

OK you guys know all about this stuff, my son has just put a bet on that Pacquiao will beat Cotto in his next fight and thinks he will then go on to fight Mayweather.

Do you think my son will win some money?


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[spyder123]

Bet the Farm on Manny. JMHO ... ... educated guess.

[holdqwer]

I think this could be an outstanding match with both men hitting the canvas.

My heart says Pac takes it though. Pac will only fight PBF if he takes out Cotto convincingly.

[Ladybbird]

I have read on a boxing forum that Cotto has lost his confidence and needs this fight to regain it. For me that sounds daft. Surely the one thing any boxer needs is a positive determination and most of all confidence to fight anyone, if he intends to win.

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[Ladybbird]

Please note the date this was announced on this site and yet it is only being officially announced in the press lately. AAAFTA ROCKS!!!!! As the event is close now I have made it a poll. What do you think?

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[CANIAC]

This is going to be a good 1 for sure,we know Pacquiao`s speed but he hasn`t faced anyone quite like Cotto.It has been proven Cotto can take a beating and still stay up from some of the hardest hitters and come back with great power.I think the solid chin of Cotto will withstand Manny`s flury`s and Miquel will eventualy be to strong for Manny and end this in a KO victory.Thats my prediction....

[Ladybbird]

Originally Posted by CANIAC

This is going to be a good 1 for sure,we know Pacquiao`s speed but he hasn`t faced anyone quite like Cotto.It has been proven Cotto can take a beating and still stay up from some of the hardest hitters and come back with great power.I think the solid chin of Cotto will withstand Manny`s flury`s and Miquel will eventualy be to strong for Manny and end this in a KO victory.Thats my prediction....

Thats what concerns me CANIAC.

[Ladybbird]

Manny Pacquiao vs Miguel Cotto - Bout 14th November


It’s finally been made official, the Manny Pacquiao vs. Miguel Cotto super fight is now signed and sealed. On November 14 th, 2009 from the MGM Grand in Las Vegas Nevada, pound for pound champion Manny Pacquiao will take on welterweight powerhouse Miguel Cotto.

The fight will be fought at a catch weight of 145 pounds. The weight was one of the biggest factors holding up the creation of this fight, as Pacquiao’s camp wanted Cotto to come down even farther. Finally the two sides agreed on 145, 2 pounds lighter than the welterweight limit.

Manny “Pacman” Pacquiao
49 (37) – 3 – 2
Height: 5′6″ Reach: 67″
Current Pound for Pound Champion
Last 5 fights: 5-0 with 3 knockouts against Ricky Hatton, Oscar De La Hoya, Juan Manuel Marquez, David Diaz and Marco Antonio Barrera, spanning four weight classes from super featherweight to welterweight

Miguel Cotto
34 (27) – 1
Height: 5′7″ Reach: 67″
Current WBO Welterweight Champion
Last 5 fights: 4-1 with 2 knockouts against Joshua Clottey, Michael Jennings Alfonso Gomez and Shane Mosley with the defeat coming against Antonio Margarito



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[Ladybbird]

Originally Posted by CANIAC

This is going to be a good 1 for sure,we know Pacquiao`s speed but he hasn`t faced anyone quite like Cotto.It has been proven Cotto can take a beating and still stay up from some of the hardest hitters and come back with great power.I think the solid chin of Cotto will withstand Manny`s flury`s and Miquel will eventualy be to strong for Manny and end this in a KO victory.Thats my prediction....

Actually CANIAC I am not so sure on rethinking, I remember watching some of the Manny fights with the Brit Hatton and Marquez. He is one solid blocker and it might be real tough for Cotto fists to find their mark.

Come on guys give me a clue, should I put a little bet on or not???? Vote

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[DJ COOKIE]

I got Cotto wining by ko by the way its going to air on ku americas 93.w live in true fta mode tomorrow nigth ,

[CANIAC]

That would be Aztecca 7 right DJ?

[buddyjh]

LAS VEGAS -- Manny Pacquiao spent long, hard weeks getting ready for one of the biggest nights of his life. Hundreds of hours sparring in sweltering gyms, nearly as many on morning runs through deserted streets.

Not to mention all those nights rehearsing with the band.

Many in boxing think Miguel Cotto will be Pacquiao's toughest challenge when they meet Saturday night in a highly anticipated 145-pound fight. But after trading punches he has to please another kind of crowd when he takes the stage to sing with his band later that night down the Las Vegas Strip.

His trainer would rather he concentrate on the immediate task at hand. But Freddie Roach understands by now that Pacquiao can't keep still in the ring or out.

"I'm against the concert, of course," Roach said. "But he does a lot of stuff. He's multitasking all the time."

The stuff includes everything from helping victims of the recent typhoon in his native Philippines to starring in an action movie called "Wapakman." The father of four -- who named one of his daughters Queen Elizabeth -- has so many things going on all the time that even his ever expanding entourage has trouble keeping track.

None of it matters, though, if he doesn't take care of business Saturday night when he again carries the weight of a nation on his shoulders in the latest in a string of fights that have made him wildly popular far beyond his home country.

Pacquiao expects it to be his first knockout performance of the night.

"For me boxing is a kind of entertainment," Pacquiao said. "You have to entertain people. You have to earn their trust."

Pacquiao has done just that in his last two fights, giving Oscar De La Hoya such a beating that he retired and dropping Ricky Hatton with one huge punch. He's gone from being a top-tier fighter to being widely regarded as the best pound-for-pound fighter in the world, and beating Cotto would give him an unprecedented seventh title in as many weight classes.

It also would set up a bout with unbeaten Floyd Mayweather Jr. in one of the biggest fights in boxing history. That's assuming, of course, that Pacquiao can focus on his most important duty of the night.

"I set aside everything that can distract my mind," Pacquiao said. "This is the important fight of my life. To win seven titles means 20 or 30 years ago you won't forget my name. Manny Pacquiao will still be there."

Though the fight will be for a piece of the welterweight title, it is being held at 145 pounds at the insistence of Pacquiao's camp because Cotto is a natural 147-pounder and Pacquiao has fought only once above 140 pounds. The scheduled 12-rounder at sold-out MGM Grand arena will be shown on pay-per-view.

Pacquiao weighed in at 144 pounds, his heaviest ever, while Cotto was 145 at a weigh-in Friday attended by some 7,000 fans.

The fight has the potential to be one of the most entertaining of recent big bouts, if only because Pacquiao fights in a frenetic style and Cotto loves nothing better than to move forward while throwing a relentless swarm of punches. But there are still questions about Pacquiao's chin against a bigger fighter as well as how much Cotto has recovered from the beating he took last year at the hands of Antonio Margarito.

Oddsmakers make Pacquiao a 2½-1 favorite partly because the betting public is going by his last two performances and partly because he seems to have accomplished the hardest task in boxing -- bringing both his speed punch with him as he moved up in weight in a pro career that began at 105 pounds.

"We believe we have an advantage in speed and in power, too," Pacquiao said. "My speed is still there and if you have speed you can create power."

Hatton found that out when he was on the receiving end of Pacquiao's left hook, his best punch. But Roach has helped Pacquiao develop a decent right hand in the last few years, too, so opponents can no longer look for just one punch.

The fight plan is simple for Pacquiao: Take command early and don't give Cotto a chance to build his confidence.

"If we let him win the first few rounds he'll begin to think he can fight with Manny," Roach said. "My job is not to let that happen."

Cotto's left hook is his best weapon, too, and until Margarito -- with the possible help of some suspect hand wraps -- stopped him in the 11th round last year, Cotto was a rising star himself. Cotto struggled in his last fight to win a bloody split decision over Joshua Clottey and Roach, for one, believes he has slowed and is no longer the same fighter he once was.

Cotto will make just half of Pacquiao's $13 million guarantee for this fight. He will also have to deal with having a new and untested trainer in his corner and the possibility that his cut against Clottey will be reopened in this fight. The crowd also figures to be against him.

"It's just a fight," Cotto said. "I'm not mad that people want me to win this fight or not. If he thinks he is going to win seven titles in seven weight divisions now, he has picked the wrong moment, the wrong fighter and the wrong opponent. If he thinks he is going to win the seventh title against Miguel Cotto, he is very wrong."


Copyright 2009 by The Associated Press

[DJ COOKIE]

Originally Posted by CANIAC

That would be Aztecca 7 right DJ?

thats rigth azteca 7 i also recomend satmex 6 @ 116.w very good programing

[felixluis]

Thats a good one,Satmex 6/C is mentioned in the Panorama LNBF C band.If I cant get to it I will try xmeforums. at the computer TVU Player.Thanks DJ.Good luck.

[Ladybbird]

buddyjh, I so agree with your part of your post about Cotto's confidence, he is supposed to have lost a lot and if Manny takes control early like you say it will be all over. Manny tends to block with his fists high on his face/head, so I dont think the height of Cotto will ever count.

Gooooooooooo Manny.

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[CANIAC]

I love that wording Buddyjh..With the possible help of some suspect hand wraps..If they are so suspect why is Margarito still suspended? We all know the truth.Almost sounds like another Luis Resto vs Billy Collins drama!

[Ladybbird]

Originally Posted by CANIAC

I love that wording Buddyjh..With the possible help of some suspect hand wraps..If they are so suspect why is Margarito still suspended? We all know the truth.Almost sounds like another Luis Resto vs Billy Collins drama!

So the Dodo is not extinct after all then.

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[Ladybbird]

Yahoooooooo. Manny won, the fight was stopped in the 12th because of a cut to Cotto's eye, but Manny had knocked him down twice and Cotto really wasn't up to him.

My son wonnnnnnnnnn he bet in September and got 18 to 1 odds. I was too late last night to place my bet here. I could have been out of debt. I am sick.

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[spyder123]

Congrats Console King... where's my cut ? I told you he would win.

[Ladybbird]

Originally Posted by spyder123

Congrats Console King... where's my cut ? I told you he would win.

I'll tell him. I wanted some more money........ to get my inverter repaired, but he said he wanted a new game for his PS3, never mind he is paying a lot of other bills.

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